Comments on: Photography: Being the Model http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/ Stephanie Booth's online ramblings Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:15:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Comment Ownership, Reloaded — Climb to the Stars http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-28510 Comment Ownership, Reloaded — Climb to the Stars Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:34:17 +0000 http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-28510 <p>[...] think we’re in a situation which mirrors (in complexity) that of photography ownership between model and photographer. With the added perk that in the case of blog comments, as soon as it is published, the comment [...]</p> [...] think we’re in a situation which mirrors (in complexity) that of photography ownership between model and photographer. With the added perk that in the case of blog comments, as soon as it is published, the comment [...]

]]> By: Climb to the Stars (Stephanie Booth) » December 2007 Recap http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15507 Climb to the Stars (Stephanie Booth) » December 2007 Recap Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:03:12 +0000 http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15507 <p>[...] left? Photography: Being the Model, where I express that though I’m glad to have my photo taken, I do consider I have some [...]</p> [...] left? Photography: Being the Model, where I express that though I’m glad to have my photo taken, I do consider I have some [...]

]]> By: Stephanie http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15510 Stephanie Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:06:31 +0000 http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15510 <p>Robin: i think you misunderstood me. I'm very happy to have my photo taken. Snap away all you like. Only, I resent the idea that I have no rights at all upon the photograph I'm in, save insisting that you delete it.</p> Robin: i think you misunderstood me. I'm very happy to have my photo taken. Snap away all you like. Only, I resent the idea that I have no rights at all upon the photograph I'm in, save insisting that you delete it.

]]> By: Stephanie http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15509 Stephanie Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:06:31 +0000 http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15509 <p>Robin: i think you misunderstood me. I'm very happy to have my photo taken. Snap away all you like. Only, I resent the idea that I have no rights at all upon the photograph I'm in, save insisting that you delete it.</p> Robin: i think you misunderstood me. I’m very happy to have my photo taken. Snap away all you like. Only, I resent the idea that I have no rights at all upon the photograph I’m in, save insisting that you delete it.

]]> By: Robin Ann Peters http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15511 Robin Ann Peters Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:12:39 +0000 http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15511 <p>You hit a very sore spot in me with regard to this topic. I am from the US and here is the scenario...</p> <p><br></p> <p>I am a photographer. I walk about..snapping away as I please. That's my prerogative and also one of my rights. That picture is mine. There is no fairy-tale joint ownership just because you are in it. I do not have the right to sell an image of you without your permission, I know that. But I am allowed to take that picture and not have to give you anything in return. I'm pretty certain I don't want you to come up to me and make me feel guilty for not doing so either.</p> <p><br></p> <p>I would gladly allow you access to my collection for a price. I'm trying to make a living too. Hopefully instead of being erased from my collection, we could strike a conversation and begin to negotiate for what you really want...pictures of yourself in 'those situations'. You should look to those photography moments as opportunities, not 'rights' infringements.</p> <p><br></p> <p>I've run into people like you before and maybe you just haven't figured out how to handle the situation, so let me please inform you how you should proceed: Kindly inform the photographer you do not want to be photographed and polity insist that they immediately delete the photograph. Please do not cause a scene. I do not have to delete you.. but if you ask nice, I would probably sympathize.</p> <p><br></p> <p>Whatever you decide, what you do will not be easy. Either ignore us, pay us, or ask us to delete you because the fact is that as soon as you step out the door of your house and leave your property...you are fair game to every photographer in the world.</p> You hit a very sore spot in me with regard to this topic. I am from the US and here is the scenario…


I am a photographer. I walk about..snapping away as I please. That's my prerogative and also one of my rights. That picture is mine. There is no fairy-tale joint ownership just because you are in it. I do not have the right to sell an image of you without your permission, I know that. But I am allowed to take that picture and not have to give you anything in return. I'm pretty certain I don't want you to come up to me and make me feel guilty for not doing so either.


I would gladly allow you access to my collection for a price. I'm trying to make a living too. Hopefully instead of being erased from my collection, we could strike a conversation and begin to negotiate for what you really want…pictures of yourself in 'those situations'. You should look to those photography moments as opportunities, not 'rights' infringements.


I've run into people like you before and maybe you just haven't figured out how to handle the situation, so let me please inform you how you should proceed: Kindly inform the photographer you do not want to be photographed and polity insist that they immediately delete the photograph. Please do not cause a scene. I do not have to delete you.. but if you ask nice, I would probably sympathize.


Whatever you decide, what you do will not be easy. Either ignore us, pay us, or ask us to delete you because the fact is that as soon as you step out the door of your house and leave your property…you are fair game to every photographer in the world.

]]> By: Robin Ann Peters http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15508 Robin Ann Peters Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:12:39 +0000 http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15508 <p>You hit a very sore spot in me with regard to this topic. I am from the US and here is the scenario...</p> <p>I am a photographer. I walk about..snapping away as I please. That's my prerogative and also one of my rights. That picture is mine. There is no fairy-tale joint ownership just because you are in it. I do not have the right to sell an image of you without your permission, I know that. But I am allowed to take that picture and not have to give you anything in return. I'm pretty certain I don't want you to come up to me and make me feel guilty for not doing so either.</p> <p>I would gladly allow you access to my collection for a price. I'm trying to make a living too. Hopefully instead of being erased from my collection, we could strike a conversation and begin to negotiate for what you really want...pictures of yourself in 'those situations'. You should look to those photography moments as opportunities, not 'rights' infringements.</p> <p>I've run into people like you before and maybe you just haven't figured out how to handle the situation, so let me please inform you how you should proceed: Kindly inform the photographer you do not want to be photographed and polity insist that they immediately delete the photograph. Please do not cause a scene. I do not have to delete you.. but if you ask nice, I would probably sympathize.</p> <p>Whatever you decide, what you do will not be easy. Either ignore us, pay us, or ask us to delete you because the fact is that as soon as you step out the door of your house and leave your property...you are fair game to every photographer in the world.</p> You hit a very sore spot in me with regard to this topic. I am from the US and here is the scenario…

I am a photographer. I walk about..snapping away as I please. That’s my prerogative and also one of my rights. That picture is mine. There is no fairy-tale joint ownership just because you are in it. I do not have the right to sell an image of you without your permission, I know that. But I am allowed to take that picture and not have to give you anything in return. I’m pretty certain I don’t want you to come up to me and make me feel guilty for not doing so either.

I would gladly allow you access to my collection for a price. I’m trying to make a living too. Hopefully instead of being erased from my collection, we could strike a conversation and begin to negotiate for what you really want…pictures of yourself in ‘those situations’. You should look to those photography moments as opportunities, not ‘rights’ infringements.

I’ve run into people like you before and maybe you just haven’t figured out how to handle the situation, so let me please inform you how you should proceed: Kindly inform the photographer you do not want to be photographed and polity insist that they immediately delete the photograph. Please do not cause a scene. I do not have to delete you.. but if you ask nice, I would probably sympathize.

Whatever you decide, what you do will not be easy. Either ignore us, pay us, or ask us to delete you because the fact is that as soon as you step out the door of your house and leave your property…you are fair game to every photographer in the world.

]]> By: Stephanie http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15521 Stephanie Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:34:45 +0000 http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15521 <p>Bien vu -- faut que je retrouve mes sources, je suis certaine que ce "absolu" n'est pas une initiative de ma part, mais que j'ai trouvé cette expression sur un site "sérieux". Je note, merci.</p> Bien vu — faut que je retrouve mes sources, je suis certaine que ce “absolu” n'est pas une initiative de ma part, mais que j'ai trouvé cette expression sur un site “sérieux”. Je note, merci.

]]> By: Frédéric http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15520 Frédéric Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:29:27 +0000 http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15520 <p>Sur la page de ciao.ch, tu écris "En Suisse, le droit à l'image est absolu.", ce qui est un peu catégorique... La loi que tu cites (article 28) dit bien que ce droit peut être limité "par un intérêt prépondérant privé ou public, ou par la loi." Par exemple, il peut être limité par le droit à l'information, qui fait qu'on peut photographier quelqu'un qui fait partie d'un événement d'actualité.</p> Sur la page de ciao.ch, tu écris “En Suisse, le droit à l'image est absolu.”, ce qui est un peu catégorique… La loi que tu cites (article 28) dit bien que ce droit peut être limité “par un intérêt prépondérant privé ou public, ou par la loi.” Par exemple, il peut être limité par le droit à l'information, qui fait qu'on peut photographier quelqu'un qui fait partie d'un événement d'actualité.

]]> By: Frédéric http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15519 Frédéric Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:46:49 +0000 http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15519 <p>Merci !</p> Merci !

]]> By: Stephanie http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15506 Stephanie Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:34:45 +0000 http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/12/16/photography-being-the-model/#comment-15506 <p>Bien vu -- faut que je retrouve mes sources, je suis certaine que ce "absolu" n'est pas une initiative de ma part, mais que j'ai trouvé cette expression sur un site "sérieux". Je note, merci.</p> Bien vu — faut que je retrouve mes sources, je suis certaine que ce “absolu” n’est pas une initiative de ma part, mais que j’ai trouvé cette expression sur un site “sérieux”. Je note, merci.

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