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		<title>By: Chris Brogan...</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-390000</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Brogan...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is an excellent post about something that is on my mind, too. I'm having a harder and harder time scaling. As my website is currently broken (for the last 6 days), I'll spare sharing a link with you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But suffice to say that I hear you, and identify with you, and wish you the very best.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent post about something that is on my mind, too. I&#8217;m having a harder and harder time scaling. As my website is currently broken (for the last 6 days), I&#8217;ll spare sharing a link with you.</p>
<p>But suffice to say that I hear you, and identify with you, and wish you the very best.</p>
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		<title>By: Climb to the Stars (Stephanie Booth) &#187; Come to LIFT&#8217;08</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-381342</link>
		<dc:creator>Climb to the Stars (Stephanie Booth) &#187; Come to LIFT&#8217;08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing you there. I&#8217;m part of the electronic media crowd, though, so if you see me live-blogging like mad, don&#8217;t be offended if I&#8217;m not very chatty. [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing you there. I&#8217;m part of the electronic media crowd, though, so if you see me live-blogging like mad, don&#8217;t be offended if I&#8217;m not very chatty. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Venue Stories &#171; Going Solo</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-380372</link>
		<dc:creator>Venue Stories &#171; Going Solo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Venue #6 is not in a hotel either &#8212; it&#8217;s in the station building. So, location is fine &#8212; the windows are sound-proof, so you barely hear the trains (sound so faint the noise of fingers tapping on keyboards will drown it). I was shown two rooms (both pretty historical). The first is a little small, though it could probably hold us (but again, no break-out area or booths). The second is huge. We could most certainly place partner booths inside the conference room &#8212; but the problem would be that there isn&#8217;t really anywhere to go if somebody wants to flee the conference room. (Nowhere quiet to blog or chat in peace, for example &#8212; of course, I hope you&#8217;ll be listening to the great speakers I&#8217;m lining up with open eyes and ears, but I know that one sometimes needs a break.) [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Venue #6 is not in a hotel either &#8212; it&#8217;s in the station building. So, location is fine &#8212; the windows are sound-proof, so you barely hear the trains (sound so faint the noise of fingers tapping on keyboards will drown it). I was shown two rooms (both pretty historical). The first is a little small, though it could probably hold us (but again, no break-out area or booths). The second is huge. We could most certainly place partner booths inside the conference room &#8212; but the problem would be that there isn&#8217;t really anywhere to go if somebody wants to flee the conference room. (Nowhere quiet to blog or chat in peace, for example &#8212; of course, I hope you&#8217;ll be listening to the great speakers I&#8217;m lining up with open eyes and ears, but I know that one sometimes needs a break.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Events? &#171; Going Far</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-374641</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Events? &#171; Going Far</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] you&#8217;re a reader of this blog, you know I&#8217;ve become a bit conference-weary lately. I&#8217;m also known (to conference organisers, at least) for my sometimes nasty (but [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you&#8217;re a reader of this blog, you know I&#8217;ve become a bit conference-weary lately. I&#8217;m also known (to conference organisers, at least) for my sometimes nasty (but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climb to the Stars (Stephanie Booth) &#187; News from LeWeb3</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-346882</link>
		<dc:creator>Climb to the Stars (Stephanie Booth) &#187; News from LeWeb3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] specially if you&#8217;d like to sponsor my event (I&#8217;ll tell you all about it). I&#8217;m not suffering from conference overload and oversocialisation right now and quite happy to network and chat.   This entry was written by Stephanie, posted on 12/12/2007 at [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] specially if you&#8217;d like to sponsor my event (I&#8217;ll tell you all about it). I&#8217;m not suffering from conference overload and oversocialisation right now and quite happy to network and chat.   This entry was written by Stephanie, posted on 12/12/2007 at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climb to the Stars (Stephanie Booth) &#187; Why Events?</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-346853</link>
		<dc:creator>Climb to the Stars (Stephanie Booth) &#187; Why Events?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] you&#8217;re a reader of this blog, you know I&#8217;ve become a bit conference-weary lately. I&#8217;m also known (to conference organisers, at least) for my sometimes nasty (but [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you&#8217;re a reader of this blog, you know I&#8217;ve become a bit conference-weary lately. I&#8217;m also known (to conference organisers, at least) for my sometimes nasty (but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New People &#171; Stephanie&#8217;s Cheese Sandwich Blog</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-286680</link>
		<dc:creator>New People &#171; Stephanie&#8217;s Cheese Sandwich Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...]  Jump to Comments Two people very close to me, after reading about my people overload, said that I needed a vacation.They&#8217;re right. I&#8217;m just having a hard time figuring how to take a vacation (meaning: what do I want to do during a vacation?) [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Jump to Comments Two people very close to me, after reading about my people overload, said that I needed a vacation.They&#8217;re right. I&#8217;m just having a hard time figuring how to take a vacation (meaning: what do I want to do during a vacation?) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-285927</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I looked at the video, but I'm afraid to say I don't really see how it's related! (other than the fact an inspirational speech can be related to just about any of the things of life...)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at the video, but I&#8217;m afraid to say I don&#8217;t really see how it&#8217;s related! (other than the fact an inspirational speech can be related to just about any of the things of life&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: J.S.Zolliker</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-285471</link>
		<dc:creator>J.S.Zolliker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here's a little thing related. Hope you enjoy it!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgzHrI61CuM&#38;eurl=" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgzHrI61CuM&#38;eurl=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a little thing related. Hope you enjoy it!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgzHrI61CuM&amp;eurl=" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgzHrI61CuM&amp;eurl=</a></p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-10-11 &#171; Matthew Henty</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-285297</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-10-11 &#171; Matthew Henty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Too Many People at Climb to the Stars (Stephanie Booth) (tags: socialsoftware friends) [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Too Many People at Climb to the Stars (Stephanie Booth) (tags: socialsoftware friends) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Can&#8217;t resist an extra post at graham at home</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-284943</link>
		<dc:creator>Can&#8217;t resist an extra post at graham at home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Although I wrote a week ago indicating I was going into hospital and wouldn&#8217;t be updating for a while, an interesting post by Stephanie has prompted me to slip this post in before making myself rare again for a while. [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Although I wrote a week ago indicating I was going into hospital and wouldn&#8217;t be updating for a while, an interesting post by Stephanie has prompted me to slip this post in before making myself rare again for a while. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-283503</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the problems of the "new social order" some of us early adopters inhabit is that we are in the middle of technology-inspired changes that are moving faster than the appropriate "social norms" can keep up  with. As you've discovered (ref this post and your birthday in the US earlier this year), the etiquette we've been brought up with doesn't adequately equip you for some of the situations you find yourself in (me - I don't have your problem because I'm less visible ATM ... I'm still "just a fan"!) and the "new etiquette" is still very much a work-in-progress.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Transparency like this is a crucial step in that progress - somebody needs to start the dialogue rather than just block people or ignore them at conferences (declaring "social bankruptcy"?). Perhaps the next step is to advertise to your network your "social goals" PRIOR to attending the next conference - who you'd like to meet up with, what time you might have available for meeting "new" people, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That may seem a bit cold to those of us raised with a less confronting way of dealing with "real world strangers" socially (I suspect that our children will have less difficulty accepting this sort of approach), but I know I would find it less embarrassing and intrusive to know ahead of time whether or not you were willing to talk to me (as a "fan", and someone only known to you virtually), and when/where it might be preferable to do so, if I were attending the same conference as you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Whatever the outcome (and assuming that your fireproof suit is up to the task!) I think this is a useful step towards a new set of social norms - brave work indeed!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems of the &#8220;new social order&#8221; some of us early adopters inhabit is that we are in the middle of technology-inspired changes that are moving faster than the appropriate &#8220;social norms&#8221; can keep up  with. As you&#8217;ve discovered (ref this post and your birthday in the US earlier this year), the etiquette we&#8217;ve been brought up with doesn&#8217;t adequately equip you for some of the situations you find yourself in (me - I don&#8217;t have your problem because I&#8217;m less visible ATM &#8230; I&#8217;m still &#8220;just a fan&#8221;!) and the &#8220;new etiquette&#8221; is still very much a work-in-progress.</p>
<p>Transparency like this is a crucial step in that progress - somebody needs to start the dialogue rather than just block people or ignore them at conferences (declaring &#8220;social bankruptcy&#8221;?). Perhaps the next step is to advertise to your network your &#8220;social goals&#8221; PRIOR to attending the next conference - who you&#8217;d like to meet up with, what time you might have available for meeting &#8220;new&#8221; people, etc.</p>
<p>That may seem a bit cold to those of us raised with a less confronting way of dealing with &#8220;real world strangers&#8221; socially (I suspect that our children will have less difficulty accepting this sort of approach), but I know I would find it less embarrassing and intrusive to know ahead of time whether or not you were willing to talk to me (as a &#8220;fan&#8221;, and someone only known to you virtually), and when/where it might be preferable to do so, if I were attending the same conference as you.</p>
<p>Whatever the outcome (and assuming that your fireproof suit is up to the task!) I think this is a useful step towards a new set of social norms - brave work indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Herot's Weblog</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-283485</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Herot's Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Continuous Partial Friendship...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As I was contemplating whether to return to the reception at the conference or go out with friends, I came across David Weinberger's musings on Twitter in which, with apologies to Linda Stone, he coined the term Continuous Partial Friendship....&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Continuous Partial Friendship&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>As I was contemplating whether to return to the reception at the conference or go out with friends, I came across David Weinberger&#8217;s musings on Twitter in which, with apologies to Linda Stone, he coined the term Continuous Partial Friendship&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Warfield</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-283202</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Warfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We've exchanged an apparent bonanza of shallow choices for depth.  Our problem is a scarcity of scarcity:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2007/10/07/the-biggest-thing-the-web-brings-is-choice-what-does-choice-make-scarce/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2007/10/07/the-biggest-thing-the-web-brings-is-choice-what-does-choice-make-scarce/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve exchanged an apparent bonanza of shallow choices for depth.  Our problem is a scarcity of scarcity:</p>
<p><a href="http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2007/10/07/the-biggest-thing-the-web-brings-is-choice-what-does-choice-make-scarce/" rel="nofollow">http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2007/10/07/the-biggest-thing-the-web-brings-is-choice-what-does-choice-make-scarce/</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Biggest Thing the Web Brings is Choice? What Does Choice Make Scarce? &#171; SmoothSpan Blog</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/10/06/too-many-people/#comment-283198</link>
		<dc:creator>The Biggest Thing the Web Brings is Choice? What Does Choice Make Scarce? &#171; SmoothSpan Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Intimacy is Scarce:  Despite Nick Carr&#8217;s musings about whether we might achieve intimacy on the web, I think most people feel the web is empowering them to have many many more very shallow relationships.  Stowe Boyd and Stephanie Booth muse about this in their blogs.  It boils down to two problems:  not enough time to have a deep enough relationship with everyone you want to, and not having the right tools to preserve the nuances of relationships in today&#8217;s Web 2.0 world.  Today&#8217;s Social Networks let you sign up more &#8220;friends&#8221;, and they&#8217;re working hard to let you carry your friends around.  But these efforts say little about how to parse those friends into meaningful groups, although Facebook is at work on groupings, the next &#8220;killer&#8221; feature.  Getting &#8220;nuanced&#8221; relationships on the web is the next killer feature, but I&#8217;m not sure simple groupings will be enough.  The nature of the content and interaction with those groups has to be nuanced.  This may or may not be a natural thing that people do automatically, but even if it is, the online vocabulary for expressing those natural moves is still evolving.  Finding ways to reach out and touch people in a meaningful way online is valuable. [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Intimacy is Scarce:  Despite Nick Carr&#8217;s musings about whether we might achieve intimacy on the web, I think most people feel the web is empowering them to have many many more very shallow relationships.  Stowe Boyd and Stephanie Booth muse about this in their blogs.  It boils down to two problems:  not enough time to have a deep enough relationship with everyone you want to, and not having the right tools to preserve the nuances of relationships in today&#8217;s Web 2.0 world.  Today&#8217;s Social Networks let you sign up more &#8220;friends&#8221;, and they&#8217;re working hard to let you carry your friends around.  But these efforts say little about how to parse those friends into meaningful groups, although Facebook is at work on groupings, the next &#8220;killer&#8221; feature.  Getting &#8220;nuanced&#8221; relationships on the web is the next killer feature, but I&#8217;m not sure simple groupings will be enough.  The nature of the content and interaction with those groups has to be nuanced.  This may or may not be a natural thing that people do automatically, but even if it is, the online vocabulary for expressing those natural moves is still evolving.  Finding ways to reach out and touch people in a meaningful way online is valuable. [...]</p>
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