Comments on: Promote Comments Plugin Idea

By: jdo

jdo — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:58:22 +0000

I was looking for an idea to test plugin capacities of wordpress as a developper, what a great start to work on this stuff !

I'll take a look at it in the following days…

By: jdo

jdo — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:58:22 +0000

I was looking for an idea to test plugin capacities of wordpress as a developper, what a great start to work on this stuff !

I’ll take a look at it in the following days…

By: BrunoG

BrunoG — Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:26:32 +0000

Hello Stephanie, thank you for this, you didn't forget anything. My guess is that promoted comments should be added at the bottom of the post, and show up as such in both the “general” blog page and the permalinked page, in a way that's graphically clearly identifiable, as you suggest. The overall idea is really that some comments are extremely valuable and leaving them in the “comment” page, almost “physically” separated from the main post, kills part of that value.
I see an additional element that you may want to add to your list: if a new reader wants to post a comment to one of the “promoted” comments, the new comment should be appended — as any other comment — to the main comments section: the blogger will always have the possibility to “promote” it or part of it later. In other words, the “promoted” comments become part of the post, and all the other functionalities (permalink, comments link, etc) remain the same.
Overall the whole idea is to increase the “conversationality” of the blogosphere, which right now is pretty much a simulacrum, and it is so not because bloggers are not trying, but mainly because the tools we're using are still very much publishing tools rather than discussion tools (I know, I should not make this kind of general statements, CoComment and Twitter and all, but my point is that blogging platforms don't seem to have much evolved in the last couple of years). Bruno

By: jdo

jdo — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:03:15 +0000

(sorry, I'll reply in french, my engliah isn't enough fluctuant for a fast typed answer )

Je trouve cette idée très intéressante ! Ca fait un moment que je “joue” dans ma tête avec l'idée que l'article d'un côté, les commentaires de l'autre, étaient finalement séparés d'une manière bien trop imperméable, sans réelle capacité d'être liés l'un à l'autre, entremêlés, ou je ne sais quel concept qui permettrait de coller un peu plus avec l'esprit “les blogs démarrent des conversations”, comme dirait l'autre

Bref, j'aimerai beaucoup réfléchir à un système qui engendrerait de vraies conversations, là où aujourd'hui on a “un monologue / un gros volume de réponses éparses / un autre monologue / etc…”. un truc qui soit :
- plus lisible et consultable qu'un forum,
- plus structuré qu'une sorte de “tchat asynchrone”
- plus orienté “dialogue” qu'un wiki
- plus interactif qu'un blog

en tout cas, l'idée de ton ami est excellente ! si je peux aider d'une maniere ou d'une autre…

By: BrunoG

BrunoG — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:26:32 +0000

Hello Stephanie, thank you for this, you didn’t forget anything. My guess is that promoted comments should be added at the bottom of the post, and show up as such in both the “general” blog page and the permalinked page, in a way that’s graphically clearly identifiable, as you suggest. The overall idea is really that some comments are extremely valuable and leaving them in the “comment” page, almost “physically” separated from the main post, kills part of that value. I see an additional element that you may want to add to your list: if a new reader wants to post a comment to one of the “promoted” comments, the new comment should be appended — as any other comment — to the main comments section: the blogger will always have the possibility to “promote” it or part of it later. In other words, the “promoted” comments become part of the post, and all the other functionalities (permalink, comments link, etc) remain the same. Overall the whole idea is to increase the “conversationality” of the blogosphere, which right now is pretty much a simulacrum, and it is so not because bloggers are not trying, but mainly because the tools we’re using are still very much publishing tools rather than discussion tools (I know, I should not make this kind of general statements, CoComment and Twitter and all, but my point is that blogging platforms don’t seem to have much evolved in the last couple of years). Bruno

By: jdo

jdo — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:03:15 +0000

(sorry, I’ll reply in french, my engliah isn’t enough fluctuant for a fast typed answer )

Je trouve cette idée très intéressante ! Ca fait un moment que je “joue” dans ma tête avec l’idée que l’article d’un côté, les commentaires de l’autre, étaient finalement séparés d’une manière bien trop imperméable, sans réelle capacité d’être liés l’un à l’autre, entremêlés, ou je ne sais quel concept qui permettrait de coller un peu plus avec l’esprit “les blogs démarrent des conversations”, comme dirait l’autre

Bref, j’aimerai beaucoup réfléchir à un système qui engendrerait de vraies conversations, là où aujourd’hui on a “un monologue / un gros volume de réponses éparses / un autre monologue / etc…”. un truc qui soit : - plus lisible et consultable qu’un forum, - plus structuré qu’une sorte de “tchat asynchrone” - plus orienté “dialogue” qu’un wiki - plus interactif qu’un blog

en tout cas, l’idée de ton ami est excellente ! si je peux aider d’une maniere ou d’une autre…