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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-432257</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2001 05:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;voyez aussi surtout la conversation qui a lieu sur le wiki:&lt;br&gt; &lt;a href="http://climbtothestars.org/wiki/index.php?Education"&gt;&lt;a href="http://climbtothestars.org/wiki/index.php?Educa.." rel="nofollow"&gt;http://climbtothestars.org/wiki/index.php?Educa..&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt; N&#39;hésitez pas à  me demander username et mot de passe si vous voulez allez &lt;br&gt;voir (vous pouvez aussi utiliser username: guest et password: stars, mais &lt;br&gt;c&#39;est plus sympa d&#39;avoir le votre).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>voyez aussi surtout la conversation qui a lieu sur le wiki:<br /> <a href="http://climbtothestars.org/wiki/index.php?Education"></a><a href="http://climbtothestars.org/wiki/index.php?Educa.." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://climbtothestars.org/wiki/index.php?Educa." rel="nofollow">http://climbtothestars.org/wiki/index.php?Educa.</a>..<br /> N&#39;hésitez pas à  me demander username et mot de passe si vous voulez allez <br />voir (vous pouvez aussi utiliser username: guest et password: stars, mais <br />c&#39;est plus sympa d&#39;avoir le votre).</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-432256</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2001 16:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Je crois qu&#39;il vaut mieux "cadrer" que de laisser tout faire.&lt;br&gt; notez qu&#39;il est plus facile, qd on est parent, de tout laisser faire ! ce &lt;br&gt;n&#39;est pas forcement le plus facile de s&#39;opposer à  ses enfants...&lt;br&gt; Si Karl est, à  priori", plus "permissif", c&#39;est sûrement parce qu&#39;il n&#39;a &lt;br&gt;pas d&#39;enfants (là , il va bondir comme un diable de sa boite :-p)&lt;br&gt; Tout dépend aussi du tempérament des enfants. Le plus dur est surement de &lt;br&gt;ne pas avoir un comportement uniforme, mais justement d&#39;adapter son &lt;br&gt;discours et ses sanctions au tempérament de son enfant, sans pour cela &lt;br&gt;qu&#39;il y ait sentiment d&#39;injustice dans la fratrie...&lt;br&gt; ...ah la la, on n&#39;a pas des métiers faciles ! ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Je crois qu&#39;il vaut mieux &#8220;cadrer&#8221; que de laisser tout faire.<br /> notez qu&#39;il est plus facile, qd on est parent, de tout laisser faire ! ce <br />n&#39;est pas forcement le plus facile de s&#39;opposer à  ses enfants&#8230;<br /> Si Karl est, à  priori&#8221;, plus &#8220;permissif&#8221;, c&#39;est sûrement parce qu&#39;il n&#39;a <br />pas d&#39;enfants (là , il va bondir comme un diable de sa boite :-p)<br /> Tout dépend aussi du tempérament des enfants. Le plus dur est surement de <br />ne pas avoir un comportement uniforme, mais justement d&#39;adapter son <br />discours et ses sanctions au tempérament de son enfant, sans pour cela <br />qu&#39;il y ait sentiment d&#39;injustice dans la fratrie&#8230;<br /> &#8230;ah la la, on n&#39;a pas des métiers faciles ! <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pascale</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-432255</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Je crois qu&#39;il vaut mieux "cadrer" que de laisser tout faire.&lt;br&gt; notez qu&#39;il est plus facile, qd on est parent, de tout laisser faire ! ce &lt;br&gt;n&#39;est pas forcement le plus facile de s&#39;opposer à  ses enfants...&lt;br&gt; Si Karl est, à  priori", plus "permissif", c&#39;est sûrement parce qu&#39;il n&#39;a &lt;br&gt;pas d&#39;enfants (là , il va bondir comme un diable de sa boite :-p)&lt;br&gt; Tout dépend aussi du tempérament des enfants. Le plus dur est surement de &lt;br&gt;ne pas avoir un comportement uniforme, mais justement d&#39;adapter son &lt;br&gt;discours et ses sanctions au tempérament de son enfant, sans pour cela &lt;br&gt;qu&#39;il y ait sentiment d&#39;injustice dans la fratrie...&lt;br&gt; ...ah la la, on n&#39;a pas des métiers faciles ! ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Je crois qu&#39;il vaut mieux &#8220;cadrer&#8221; que de laisser tout faire.<br /> notez qu&#39;il est plus facile, qd on est parent, de tout laisser faire ! ce <br />n&#39;est pas forcement le plus facile de s&#39;opposer à  ses enfants&#8230;<br /> Si Karl est, à  priori&#8221;, plus &#8220;permissif&#8221;, c&#39;est sûrement parce qu&#39;il n&#39;a <br />pas d&#39;enfants (là , il va bondir comme un diable de sa boite :-p)<br /> Tout dépend aussi du tempérament des enfants. Le plus dur est surement de <br />ne pas avoir un comportement uniforme, mais justement d&#39;adapter son <br />discours et ses sanctions au tempérament de son enfant, sans pour cela <br />qu&#39;il y ait sentiment d&#39;injustice dans la fratrie&#8230;<br /> &#8230;ah la la, on n&#39;a pas des métiers faciles ! <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Monique</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-432254</link>
		<dc:creator>Monique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2001 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Trop ... pas assez ...??? Si rare et si complexe de trouver l&#39;équilibre. &lt;br&gt;Le trop n&#39;est -il pas mis pour nous (parents) rassurer de notre bon droit &lt;br&gt;de pouvoir? et dans ce trop n&#39;y a-t-il pas le risque d&#39;escalade entre &lt;br&gt;l&#39;enfant-rebelle et le parent-cadrant? a part cela je suis entièrement &lt;br&gt;d&#39;accord avec vous que trop de permissivité n&#39;a le plus souvent amené que &lt;br&gt;des excès (voir "libres enfants de Summerhill" et leur difficulté de &lt;br&gt;socialisation)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trop &#8230; pas assez &#8230;??? Si rare et si complexe de trouver l&#39;équilibre. <br />Le trop n&#39;est -il pas mis pour nous (parents) rassurer de notre bon droit <br />de pouvoir? et dans ce trop n&#39;y a-t-il pas le risque d&#39;escalade entre <br />l&#39;enfant-rebelle et le parent-cadrant? a part cela je suis entièrement <br />d&#39;accord avec vous que trop de permissivité n&#39;a le plus souvent amené que <br />des excès (voir &#8220;libres enfants de Summerhill&#8221; et leur difficulté de <br />socialisation)</p>
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		<title>By: le peureux anonyme de service</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-432253</link>
		<dc:creator>le peureux anonyme de service</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2001 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;moi j&#39;étais rassuré:&lt;br&gt; les rares baffes que j&#39;ai reçu m&#39;ont certes surpris sur le moment, mais &lt;br&gt;sur le long terme, je les regrette pas (et en plus je peux me moquer de &lt;br&gt;mon père pour ça)...&lt;br&gt; C&#39;est quoi des normes ?&lt;br&gt;  + au lit à  10:00 ?&lt;br&gt;  + pas de télé les soirs d&#39;école ?&lt;br&gt;  + argent de poche en quantité non infinie ?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moi j&#39;étais rassuré:<br /> les rares baffes que j&#39;ai reçu m&#39;ont certes surpris sur le moment, mais <br />sur le long terme, je les regrette pas (et en plus je peux me moquer de <br />mon père pour ça)&#8230;<br /> C&#39;est quoi des normes ?<br />  + au lit à  10:00 ?<br />  + pas de télé les soirs d&#39;école ?<br />  + argent de poche en quantité non infinie ?</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-432252</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2001 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;c&#39;est pas aussi simpliste que ça, non, rassure-toi! Mais il vaut mieux un &lt;br&gt;peu trop de normes (je n&#39;ai pas parlé de baffes!) que pas assez.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c&#39;est pas aussi simpliste que ça, non, rassure-toi! Mais il vaut mieux un <br />peu trop de normes (je n&#39;ai pas parlé de baffes!) que pas assez.</p>
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		<title>By: le peureux anonyme de service</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-432251</link>
		<dc:creator>le peureux anonyme de service</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2001 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;"Une bonne baffe de temps en temps pour remettre les idées en place" et &lt;br&gt;rappeler que dans la vie, "you can&#39;t always get what you want", c&#39;est ça ?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Une bonne baffe de temps en temps pour remettre les idées en place&#8221; et <br />rappeler que dans la vie, &#8220;you can&#39;t always get what you want&#8221;, c&#39;est ça ?</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-432250</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In fact, I was thinking about parents with children. I think that people &lt;br&gt;who have suffered from being brought up a bit too "tightly" have less &lt;br&gt;trouble than those which have been brought up in a too "permissive" way &lt;br&gt;(we&#39;re not talking about extremes here).&lt;br&gt; The message would be: "when in doubt about an educational decision, there &lt;br&gt;is less risk of damage if you choose the &#39;tight&#39; way when you should have &lt;br&gt;chosen the &#39;slack&#39; one, than if you do the opposite - choose the &#39;slack&#39; &lt;br&gt;way when the healthiest would have been the &#39;tight&#39; one."&lt;br&gt; &lt;em&gt;phew&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, I was thinking about parents with children. I think that people <br />who have suffered from being brought up a bit too &#8220;tightly&#8221; have less <br />trouble than those which have been brought up in a too &#8220;permissive&#8221; way <br />(we&#39;re not talking about extremes here).<br /> The message would be: &#8220;when in doubt about an educational decision, there <br />is less risk of damage if you choose the &#39;tight&#39; way when you should have <br />chosen the &#39;slack&#39; one, than if you do the opposite - choose the &#39;slack&#39; <br />way when the healthiest would have been the &#39;tight&#39; one.&#8221;<br /> <em>phew</em></p>
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		<title>By: sniffles</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-432249</link>
		<dc:creator>sniffles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2001 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it depends on the kind of people you are educating. :) Some people &lt;br&gt;are curious are better suited to a less restrictive education system, but &lt;br&gt;others need a bit more discipline. :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it depends on the kind of people you are educating. <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Some people <br />are curious are better suited to a less restrictive education system, but <br />others need a bit more discipline. <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-432248</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;:D&lt;br&gt; Mort de rire... Exactement!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> Mort de rire&#8230; Exactement!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-432247</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2001 12:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oui, Karl, je sais que tu n&#39;es pas d&#39;accord! ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oui, Karl, je sais que tu n&#39;es pas d&#39;accord! <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oui, Karl, je sais que tu n'es pas d'accord! ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oui, Karl, je sais que tu n&#8217;es pas d&#8217;accord! <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;:D
 Mort de rire... Exactement!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  Mort de rire&#8230; Exactement!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sniffles</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>sniffles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it depends on the kind of people you are educating. :) Some people 
are curious are better suited to a less restrictive education system, but 
others need a bit more discipline. :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it depends on the kind of people you are educating. <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Some people<br />
are curious are better suited to a less restrictive education system, but<br />
others need a bit more discipline. <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/11/01/education/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In fact, I was thinking about parents with children. I think that people 
who have suffered from being brought up a bit too "tightly" have less 
trouble than those which have been brought up in a too "permissive" way 
(we're not talking about extremes here).
 The message would be: "when in doubt about an educational decision, there 
is less risk of damage if you choose the 'tight' way when you should have 
chosen the 'slack' one, than if you do the opposite - choose the 'slack' 
way when the healthiest would have been the 'tight' one."
 &lt;em&gt;phew&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, I was thinking about parents with children. I think that people<br />
who have suffered from being brought up a bit too &#8220;tightly&#8221; have less<br />
trouble than those which have been brought up in a too &#8220;permissive&#8221; way<br />
(we&#8217;re not talking about extremes here).<br />
 The message would be: &#8220;when in doubt about an educational decision, there<br />
is less risk of damage if you choose the &#8216;tight&#8217; way when you should have<br />
chosen the &#8217;slack&#8217; one, than if you do the opposite - choose the &#8217;slack&#8217;<br />
way when the healthiest would have been the &#8216;tight&#8217; one.&#8221;<br />
 <em>phew</em></p>
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