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		<title>By: sniffles</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/07/10/site-3/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>sniffles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why do I get the feeling the guy who wrote that article is a Mac user :)&lt;br&gt;  &lt;br&gt; I use pt rather than px for accessibility reasons, which the article &lt;br&gt;outlines. I think  it is saying that if you want to create print-perfect &lt;br&gt;kind of designs, px is the go.&lt;br&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/3.html&quot;&gt;http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/3.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt; Running in px, do you have complaints from users of different &lt;br&gt;resolutions? I&#039;ve just found that using pt, resolution isn&#039;t a problem so &lt;br&gt;much (because it shouldn&#039;t be). And with px there is the issue that &lt;br&gt;printers understand pixels differently from screen. I don&#039;t know the &lt;br&gt;extent of support for media=&quot;print&quot;. (someone else might?) &lt;br&gt; I was also in a corporate environment where NS4 was the standard - in pt, &lt;br&gt;you can easily adjust change the size of the font as it appears within &lt;br&gt;your browser (Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+]), not so in px. I later discovered that &lt;br&gt;this is the contrary in IE 5, &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; it isn&#039;t particularly obvious how this &lt;br&gt;&#039;accessibility&#039; feature can be used. Bleh.&lt;br&gt; Sorry I&#039;m not much help :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I get the feeling the guy who wrote that article is a Mac user <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />  <br /> I use pt rather than px for accessibility reasons, which the article <br />outlines. I think  it is saying that if you want to create print-perfect <br />kind of designs, px is the go.<br /> <a href="http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/3.html">http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/3.html</a><br /> Running in px, do you have complaints from users of different <br />resolutions? I&#39;ve just found that using pt, resolution isn&#39;t a problem so <br />much (because it shouldn&#39;t be). And with px there is the issue that <br />printers understand pixels differently from screen. I don&#39;t know the <br />extent of support for media=&#8221;print&#8221;. (someone else might?) <br /> I was also in a corporate environment where NS4 was the standard &#8211; in pt, <br />you can easily adjust change the size of the font as it appears within <br />your browser (Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+]), not so in px. I later discovered that <br />this is the contrary in IE 5, <em>and</em> it isn&#39;t particularly obvious how this <br />&#39;accessibility&#39; feature can be used. Bleh.<br /> Sorry I&#39;m not much help <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/07/10/site-3/#comment-562</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Does this mean that in your experience, pt is more &quot;stable&quot; than px??&lt;br&gt; &lt;em&gt;confused&lt;/em&gt;: &lt;a href=&quot;http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/&quot;&gt;http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean that in your experience, pt is more &#8220;stable&#8221; than px??<br /> <em>confused</em>: <a href="http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/">http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sniffles</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/07/10/site-3/#comment-561</link>
		<dc:creator>sniffles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;eew. that didn&#039;t work. &lt;br&gt;  &lt;br&gt; That was supposed to have said:&lt;br&gt;  &lt;br&gt; I&#039;ve stuck to using pt&#039;s for now, because it seems a lesser sin than &lt;br&gt;using px&#039;s &lt;-- this could present problems with printing.&lt;br&gt;  &lt;br&gt; Bring on CSS3. And the browsers which support it, of course. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eew. that didn&#39;t work. <br />  <br /> That was supposed to have said:<br />  <br /> I&#39;ve stuck to using pt&#39;s for now, because it seems a lesser sin than <br />using px&#39;s &lt;&#8211; this could present problems with printing.<br />  <br /> Bring on CSS3. And the browsers which support it, of course. <img src='http://climbtothestars.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sniffles</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/07/10/site-3/#comment-560</link>
		<dc:creator>sniffles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My past experience with relative font sizes haven&#039;t been particularly &lt;br&gt;good.&lt;br&gt; Using x-small&#124;small&#124;large presents problems across platforms - fonts tend &lt;br&gt;to look too small on a Macs and unpredictable on Unix - and they may not &lt;br&gt;give you the granularity in different font sizes that you might need. &lt;br&gt; I&#039;ve stuck to using pt&#039;s for now, because it seems a lesser sin than &lt;br&gt;using px&#039;s&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My past experience with relative font sizes haven&#39;t been particularly <br />good.<br /> Using x-small|small|large presents problems across platforms &#8211; fonts tend <br />to look too small on a Macs and unpredictable on Unix &#8211; and they may not <br />give you the granularity in different font sizes that you might need. <br /> I&#39;ve stuck to using pt&#39;s for now, because it seems a lesser sin than <br />using px&#39;s</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/07/10/site-3/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2001 08:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Karl, I&#039;m not sure I get you, in fact. The text was unreadably small for &lt;br&gt;you when I specified it as 0.75 em (which I now understand, is a &lt;br&gt;ridiculous thing to do), but what about when I specified it as 13px? That &lt;br&gt;shouldn&#039;t be affected by the font size you have chosen as default in your &lt;br&gt;browser, should it?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl, I&#39;m not sure I get you, in fact. The text was unreadably small for <br />you when I specified it as 0.75 em (which I now understand, is a <br />ridiculous thing to do), but what about when I specified it as 13px? That <br />shouldn&#39;t be affected by the font size you have chosen as default in your <br />browser, should it?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: darren</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/07/10/site-3/#comment-558</link>
		<dc:creator>darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2001 06:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do what I&#039;ve done, and simply use relative font sizes.. ie: font-size: &lt;br&gt;small&#124;x-small&#124;xx-small;  That way, it&#039;ll still be scalable, but you can &lt;br&gt;have things smaller as well.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do what I&#39;ve done, and simply use relative font sizes.. ie: font-size: <br />small|x-small|xx-small;  That way, it&#39;ll still be scalable, but you can <br />have things smaller as well.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/07/10/site-3/#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;gah. what do I do now then?&lt;br&gt; &lt;em&gt;choke&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gah. what do I do now then?<br /> <em>choke</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/07/10/site-3/#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;gah. what do I do now then?&lt;br&gt; &lt;em&gt;choke&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gah. what do I do now then?<br /> <em>choke</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Karl Dubost</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/07/10/site-3/#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Dubost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this one is better... because before it was unreadable....&lt;br&gt; So we&#039;re faced to a problem. The problem is in fact people have different &lt;br&gt;font-size preferences in their own browser.&lt;br&gt; I decided myself, that defaut font-size in my browser is 10pt. So when &lt;br&gt;I&#039;m designing style sheets, I recommend to use 100% for the smallest font &lt;br&gt;in your page.&lt;br&gt; and gives in your stylesheet for others biggest size.&lt;br&gt; 100%  150% or 200%&lt;br&gt; but the minimum is 100%. For me if you give 80% or  95%, the font will &lt;br&gt;become unreadable on screen.&lt;br&gt; In the future (CSS3) there will be a possibility to specify, something &lt;br&gt;like&lt;br&gt;      80%, but with a lower limit of 10pt for example.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this one is better&#8230; because before it was unreadable&#8230;.<br /> So we&#39;re faced to a problem. The problem is in fact people have different <br />font-size preferences in their own browser.<br /> I decided myself, that defaut font-size in my browser is 10pt. So when <br />I&#39;m designing style sheets, I recommend to use 100% for the smallest font <br />in your page.<br /> and gives in your stylesheet for others biggest size.<br /> 100%  150% or 200%<br /> but the minimum is 100%. For me if you give 80% or  95%, the font will <br />become unreadable on screen.<br /> In the future (CSS3) there will be a possibility to specify, something <br />like<br />      80%, but with a lower limit of 10pt for example.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
		<link>http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2001/07/10/site-3/#comment-554</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Tara,&lt;br&gt; I prefer the pixel size you used to this one. This one&#039;s big - too big!&lt;br&gt; Lars!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tara,<br /> I prefer the pixel size you used to this one. This one&#39;s big &#8211; too big!<br /> Lars!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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