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1 Baud 10.07.2001 at 22:33

C’est un peu grand pour mon 1024*768 (PC)
Le genre de taille de texte que je réserverais à  un titre ou à  un
intertitre pas au corps du texte. A vue de nez on dirait du corps 16 ou du
18. Je me trompe?

2 Lars 11.07.2001 at 11:26

Hi Tara,
I prefer the pixel size you used to this one. This one’s big – too big!
Lars!

3 Karl Dubost 11.07.2001 at 15:16

this one is better… because before it was unreadable….
So we’re faced to a problem. The problem is in fact people have different
font-size preferences in their own browser.
I decided myself, that defaut font-size in my browser is 10pt. So when
I’m designing style sheets, I recommend to use 100% for the smallest font
in your page.
and gives in your stylesheet for others biggest size.
100% 150% or 200%
but the minimum is 100%. For me if you give 80% or 95%, the font will
become unreadable on screen.
In the future (CSS3) there will be a possibility to specify, something
like
80%, but with a lower limit of 10pt for example.

4 Tara 12.07.2001 at 0:55

gah. what do I do now then?
choke

5 Stephanie 12.07.2001 at 5:55

gah. what do I do now then?
choke

6 darren 14.07.2001 at 0:19

Do what I’ve done, and simply use relative font sizes.. ie: font-size:
small|x-small|xx-small; That way, it’ll still be scalable, but you can
have things smaller as well.

7 Tara 14.07.2001 at 2:31

Karl, I’m not sure I get you, in fact. The text was unreadably small for
you when I specified it as 0.75 em (which I now understand, is a
ridiculous thing to do), but what about when I specified it as 13px? That
shouldn’t be affected by the font size you have chosen as default in your
browser, should it?

8 sniffles 16.07.2001 at 3:33

My past experience with relative font sizes haven’t been particularly
good.
Using x-small|small|large presents problems across platforms – fonts tend
to look too small on a Macs and unpredictable on Unix – and they may not
give you the granularity in different font sizes that you might need.
I’ve stuck to using pt’s for now, because it seems a lesser sin than
using px’s

9 sniffles 16.07.2001 at 3:35

eew. that didn’t work.

That was supposed to have said:

I’ve stuck to using pt’s for now, because it seems a lesser sin than
using px’s <– this could present problems with printing.

Bring on CSS3. And the browsers which support it, of course. :)

10 Tara 16.07.2001 at 10:17

Does this mean that in your experience, pt is more “stable” than px??
confused: http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/

11 sniffles 17.07.2001 at 2:41

Why do I get the feeling the guy who wrote that article is a Mac user :)

I use pt rather than px for accessibility reasons, which the article
outlines. I think it is saying that if you want to create print-perfect
kind of designs, px is the go.
http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/3.html
Running in px, do you have complaints from users of different
resolutions? I’ve just found that using pt, resolution isn’t a problem so
much (because it shouldn’t be). And with px there is the issue that
printers understand pixels differently from screen. I don’t know the
extent of support for media=”print”. (someone else might?)
I was also in a corporate environment where NS4 was the standard – in pt,
you can easily adjust change the size of the font as it appears within
your browser (Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+]), not so in px. I later discovered that
this is the contrary in IE 5, and it isn’t particularly obvious how this
‘accessibility’ feature can be used. Bleh.
Sorry I’m not much help :)

12 Baud 10.07.2001 at 23:33

C'est un peu grand pour mon 1024*768 (PC)
Le genre de taille de texte que je réserverais à  un titre ou à  un
intertitre pas au corps du texte. A vue de nez on dirait du corps 16 ou du
18. Je me trompe?

13 Lars 11.07.2001 at 12:26

Hi Tara,
I prefer the pixel size you used to this one. This one's big – too big!
Lars!

14 Karl Dubost 11.07.2001 at 16:16

this one is better… because before it was unreadable….
So we're faced to a problem. The problem is in fact people have different
font-size preferences in their own browser.
I decided myself, that defaut font-size in my browser is 10pt. So when
I'm designing style sheets, I recommend to use 100% for the smallest font
in your page.
and gives in your stylesheet for others biggest size.
100% 150% or 200%
but the minimum is 100%. For me if you give 80% or 95%, the font will
become unreadable on screen.
In the future (CSS3) there will be a possibility to specify, something
like
80%, but with a lower limit of 10pt for example.

15 Tara 12.07.2001 at 1:55

gah. what do I do now then?
choke

16 Stephanie 12.07.2001 at 6:55

gah. what do I do now then?
choke

17 darren 14.07.2001 at 1:19

Do what I've done, and simply use relative font sizes.. ie: font-size:
small|x-small|xx-small; That way, it'll still be scalable, but you can
have things smaller as well.

18 Tara 14.07.2001 at 3:31

Karl, I'm not sure I get you, in fact. The text was unreadably small for
you when I specified it as 0.75 em (which I now understand, is a
ridiculous thing to do), but what about when I specified it as 13px? That
shouldn't be affected by the font size you have chosen as default in your
browser, should it?

19 sniffles 16.07.2001 at 4:33

My past experience with relative font sizes haven't been particularly
good.
Using x-small|small|large presents problems across platforms – fonts tend
to look too small on a Macs and unpredictable on Unix – and they may not
give you the granularity in different font sizes that you might need.
I've stuck to using pt's for now, because it seems a lesser sin than
using px's

20 sniffles 16.07.2001 at 4:35

eew. that didn't work.

That was supposed to have said:

I've stuck to using pt's for now, because it seems a lesser sin than
using px's <– this could present problems with printing.

Bring on CSS3. And the browsers which support it, of course. :)

21 Tara 16.07.2001 at 11:17

Does this mean that in your experience, pt is more “stable” than px??
confused: http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/

22 sniffles 17.07.2001 at 3:41

Why do I get the feeling the guy who wrote that article is a Mac user :)

I use pt rather than px for accessibility reasons, which the article
outlines. I think it is saying that if you want to create print-perfect
kind of designs, px is the go.
http://alistapart.com/stories/fear4/3.html
Running in px, do you have complaints from users of different
resolutions? I've just found that using pt, resolution isn't a problem so
much (because it shouldn't be). And with px there is the issue that
printers understand pixels differently from screen. I don't know the
extent of support for media=”print”. (someone else might?)
I was also in a corporate environment where NS4 was the standard – in pt,
you can easily adjust change the size of the font as it appears within
your browser (Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+]), not so in px. I later discovered that
this is the contrary in IE 5, and it isn't particularly obvious how this
'accessibility' feature can be used. Bleh.
Sorry I'm not much help :)

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